Like many of her other German compatriots at the time, she left the academy to work as a nurse during WWI. For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.” It is for discipline that you have to endure. (Rev 16:9-11) [. They are complete only when united as one substance, i.e. Atheism doesn’t say whether or not suffering should be avoided. Check out Sirach Chapter 2,1:6. Jesus brings suffering into what we can call “a new dimension,” the dimension of love, salvific love. Even in what I fear is no suffering at all, whether it be rational or not, He uses that very hopelessness and even irrational fear, perhaps the hopelessness He felt in His Willful Abandonment on the Cross, to instill that hope He began in me. He accomplished our salvation from sin and death by His own suffering on the cross. It is You Jesus, stretched out on the cross, who gives me strength and are always close to the suffering soul. Sorry about your loss. And that is how we, as Christians, can find meaning and purpose in suffering, what before we might have thought was totally useless. This is union with Christ. He isn’t saying that the Son of God literally became sin (or changed into sin); that would be blasphemous, as well as metaphysically impossible. It was as if at the moment Grace entered heaven, she joined in prayer with Rose of Lima to bring us home to the Catholic Church. This is also a false understanding of what many atheists believe and how many atheists approach questions about the existence of God. Atheism says nothing at all about the meaning of suffering per se. Recently a young man I know survived a plane crash. I cannot think of a better place to speak about the mystery of evil and the meaning of suffering than here before the Blessed Sacrament, the sacrament of love in which we “taste and see the goodness of the Lord.” As we pray before the Holy Eucharist, we find the fullest source of the answer to the question of the meaning of human suffering. seperated in some sense) as God “made him to be” sin for us? … Wherefore, though good and bad men suffer alike, we must not suppose that there is no difference between the men themselves, because there is no difference in what they both suffer. I have lost everything and it does not matter. for our good in some respect, even when we do not see that we need any treatment. I still think about him and about those sermons. I explained the nature of the literature, which is common knowledge in any theology program and germaine to Julia’s question. Well, I am now working on my Masters in Pastoral Theology, so I guess I can say I am a theologian now! I hope this helps, Bryan. Man’s friendship with God was lost, because his will was turned away from loving God, and toward loving other things more than he loved His Creator. “And he said to the vineyard-keeper, ‘Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. )– but mine can be united with His, mysteriously. For all his followers refuse to enter the basilicas of Apostles and martyrs, so that, forsooth, they may worship the dead Eunomius, whose books they consider are of more authority than the Gospels; and they believe that the light of truth was in him, just as other heretics maintain that the Paraclete came into Montanus, and say that Manichaeus himself was the Paraclete. Finally, there is this idea in the article that there is no redemption to an atheist. For as the same fire causes gold to glow brightly, and chaff to smoke; and under the same flail the straw is beaten small, while the grain is cleansed; and as the lees are not mixed with the oil, though squeezed out of the vat by the same pressure, so the same violence of affliction proves, purges, clarifies the good, but damns, ruins, exterminates the wicked. The answer has been given to us by God in the suffering of His Son. I will be frank in saying that when I go to seminary, all I learn and take away will have to pass the gate of reason and faith inside me and match all my experience has shown me. Is this to pay respect, to offer penance, or to just to be close to those Giants who have gone before us? I, too, have experienced great suffering in my life (death of a child, close friends, personal loss, etc.) Christ did not remove concupiscence from us at baptism. YOU can rest I promise you can get rest and get peace and have your faith grow stronger. But God has graciously allowed us to participate in Christ’s work of redeeming the world, the greatest of all God’s works. I understand that it may be hard to see the full depth of the atheist experience through a Catholic lens, but I would have liked to see more effort to do so. He accomplishes redemption through suffering. This is a logical extension of the error of monergism. In Salvifici Doloris, Pope John Paul II wrote: “Suffering must serve for conversion, that is, for the rebuilding of goodness in the subject, who can recognize the divine mercy in this call to repentance.28.